Between Two Coaches | A Digital Mentors Podcast

What if the reason you're not enrolling more clients isn't your offer or your marketing... but something deeper?​
In this powerful and honest episode of Between Two Coaches, host Norbert Orlewicz sits down with Steve Krivda — a Ziglar Legacy Certified Trainer and CEO of Krivda Executive Coaching — to explore the real reasons coaches fail to grow sustainable businesses, and what it actually takes to create transformation for your clients (and yourself).​
Steve shares how he “accidentally” became a coach, how he overcame deep-rooted self-beliefs that held him back, and why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect pitch.​
They also dive into:
Why many coaches don’t realize how their beliefs silently sabotage their success
The surprising truth about enrollment calls (hint: they should feel like coaching!)
How to have more meaningful client-generating conversations without a fancy funnel
The one critical skill coaches need to master to grow a thriving business
Why you should stop trying to be the “savior” and start being the mirror​
If you’re tired of chasing clients, wondering if you’re “good enough,” or stuck in your own head, this is the raw, real conversation you need.
🎁 Grab Steve’s free ebook + bonus Ziglar audio library: https://SteveKrivda.com/motivated🚀 Register for the free Digital Mentors Compass Workshop: https://compassworkshop.com

What if your greatest loss was actually the beginning of your most powerful transformation?
In this deeply moving and inspiring episode of Between Two Coaches, liberation coach and speaker April Joy shares the story of how she rebuilt her life and business after experiencing unimaginable loss — including the passing of five immediate family members, a divorce, and a major health scare.
But this isn’t just a story of survival. It’s a story of reinvention, power, and liberation.
April opens up about:
How to rediscover yourself through grief and hardship
Why middle-aged women are the most undervalued (yet powerful) people in society
Redefining family, identity, and success — on your terms
How to step into integrity and reclaim your voice
What it truly means to "glow from within" and build a purpose-driven personal brand
Plus, she reveals the framework behind her transformational program, Glow Transformation, and why women in midlife are just getting started.
This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever felt like it’s too late, or that your story disqualifies you. April will challenge that belief — and show you what’s possible when you step into full liberation.

In this episode of Between Two Coaches, host Norbert Orlewicz sits down with virtual event strategist and veteran coach Katy Suik to unpack one of the most underutilized growth strategies for coaches: hosting live, connection-driven virtual events.
With over 15 years in the industry and seven successful summits under her belt, Katy reveals how she went from struggling in silence to building a thriving coaching business—by trading in the chaos of one-on-one sales calls for the clarity and connection of collaborative, high-converting events.
🎯 Whether you're a brand-new coach or a seasoned expert stuck in a marketing rut, this episode will help you:
Learn why discovery calls and static lead magnets aren't enough in today’s market
Understand how virtual events create trust, connection, and conversions
Avoid the common mistakes that cause low turnout and no-shows
Shift your mindset from “nobody’s showing up” to “this is data I can use”
Discover how just 4 event attendees can lead to your next client
Start creating authentic client relationships that don’t feel salesy
Forget pressure-filled pitches and endless content creation. If you’re ready to lead with service, showcase your expertise, and attract aligned clients—this episode is your blueprint.
🎧 Listen now and discover why virtual events are the missing link in your client attraction strategy.

In this laugh-out-loud, no-holds-barred episode of Between Two Coaches, Norbert Orlewicz sits down with powerhouse productivity and leadership coach Jennie Bellinger—aka the "Direct Sales Dom"—for a bold and unapologetic conversation about coaching, branding, and self-leadership.
Jennie is the host of the Badass Direct Sales Mastery podcast, a two-time international bestselling author, and a certified professional coach who helps direct sales leaders reclaim their time and step fully into their power. But she’s also a brand rebel who’s flipped the script on what a coaching business should look like—and it’s working.
Inside this episode:
Why certification + self-awareness is the real fast track to becoming a powerful coach
What the world of network marketing taught Jennie about rejection, resilience, and results
The branding story behind BDSM (yes, THAT BDSM), and how it filters the wrong clients out
Why building your business solo is the fastest way to burn out—and how collaboration changes everything
The biggest mistake Jennie made with her first virtual summit (and how she turned failure into fire)
How to prequalify clients so you only work with the hell-yeses
Jennie also reveals her high-level mastermind for top network marketing leaders—and shares a powerful free gift: the Manifesting Sales Success guided meditation, created to rewire your sales mindset in under 9 minutes a day.
If you’re tired of playing small, hiding behind bland branding, or attracting the wrong clients, this episode will wake you up. It's real, raw, and ridiculously useful.
Links & Resources:
Get Jennie’s FREE Sales Mindset Meditation: badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Listen to the Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast
Register for the Digital Mentors Compass Workshop: compassworkshop.com

In this powerful episode of Between Two Coaches, Norbert Orlewicz sits down with Cheri Tree—world-renowned sales expert, bestselling author, and creator of the B.A.N.K. personality coding system—to unlock one of the most overlooked secrets in coaching and client acquisition: the science of why people say yes.
Most coaches struggle to enroll clients—not because they’re bad at what they do, but because they don’t know how to speak their clients’ language. Cheri breaks down how understanding your prospect’s unique buying personality code can instantly transform your sales conversations, increase your conversions, and deepen your coaching relationships.
🚀 Whether you're just starting out or scaling to six figures, this episode will help you:
Understand the 4 B.A.N.K. personality types—and why most coaches communicate with the wrong one
Learn how to instantly build trust and connection with any potential client
Discover how to personalize your pitch in under 90 seconds (without being “salesy”)
Uncover the psychology that separates high-income coaches from the ones stuck in the grind
This isn’t another fluff conversation about personality types—this is tactical, science-backed strategy that works in the real world.
🔑 If you want more yeses, deeper impact, and a sustainable, scalable coaching business—you need to hear what Cheri Tree has to say.
🎧 Listen now and unlock the code to more income, influence, and impact.